I am leading the Gardoms meet on Sunday 2nd October and aim to be at the lay by on Clodhall Lane, the road to Old Brampton (SK 280739) at 10:30. (Map on UKClimb) I will wait at the layby for 10-15 mins but after that I’ll be starting at the Apple Buttress section. I’ll keep my eye on the weather forecast which at the moment is dry and update on Saturday if rain stops play. Judith